High Grove Road speeding consultation

by Lib Dem team on 3 November, 2017

We recently consulted residents on High Grove Road and High Lea about traffic calming measures. We had a big response, with about half of households coming back to us. That shows it’s an important issue that people care about.

Residents told us that they did not want speed humps, but they would be in favour of a chicane or flashing speed sign to slow down traffic.

Even though it wasn’t a separate question on our survey, almost half of residents added that they thought the junction between High Grove Road and Gatley Road should be one way – so cars could turn onto the main road, but couldn’t come onto High Grove Road that way.

But making the end of High Grove Road one-way would affect residents on other roads too. If cars can’t turn into High Grove Road, more may use Chadvil and Milton.

So now we’ve gone back to residents on High Grove, High Lea, Chadvil and Milton to ask them about chicanes, speed signs and making that junction one-way.

   19 Comments

19 Responses

  1. Karen Sandler says:

    Resurfacing High Grove Road would be a good start! It’s a disgrace and has been for years. However, please NO MORE speed bumps. They are an ecological disaster, and any political party should be avoiding them. I don’t think there would be room for chicanes on High Grove?
    Speed signs are a complete waste of time. Just look at Broadway. It’s still an accident waiting to happen – again. However, the flashing sign on Schools Hill does seem to have an effect.
    The end of High Grove Road is simply dire. It needs to be one way, and coming out onto Gatley Road. If car parking was monitored properly in the area, there would be no problem with traffic flow in the surrounding roads – such as Milton Crescent.

  2. Ian says:

    Agree with Karen .Making High Grove one way would reduce the problem by 50% . Access for residents is not such a huge issue and would reduce the flow through to Broadway.

  3. Alan says:

    Karen, according to the survey, the case is made for no more bumps, but I think there is room for chicanes, in terms of offsetting traffic flow. Similarly, the junction at Gatley Rd must be made one way, if only so the pavement can be widened to a safe width. Since the house at the bottom had their wall done, the render has slightly narrowed the pavement even more. It’s important though that this solution is integrated with other elements, such as whether to yellow line one side of Milton, current parking means many pedestrians, wheel chairs users and buggie pushing parents have to use the road, facing drivers who blatantly disregard the 20mph speed limit.

  4. LB says:

    As a resident of High Grove Road, we know our neighbours on Milton and Chadvil have similar frustrations – and we don’t want to make anything worse for them. HOWEVER, those roads are less appealing to speeding idiots because they’re not as long, wide and straight as HGR. It’s the shape of the road that causes the speed problem.

    I definitely think HGR is wide enough for chicanes – and with a nursery and school, it’s ridiculous there isn’t already better signage.

  5. LB says:

    PS – Agree with Alan. We’ve also wondered about planning conditions in relation to that new wall :/

  6. Dave says:

    Karen, your “solution” to resurface High Grove Road to SLOW people down is PATHETIC !!!

    Broadway was made nice and smooth a number of years ago and I have witnessed many instances of drivers shooting down Broadway at well over 50mph

    Is that SERIOUSLY what you want for High Grove??

    SERIOUSLY – think before you write.

  7. Ken Holmes says:

    Clifton drive Gatley has the same problem motorist cutting out the lights at the junction of Altrincham road, Park road.
    can this also be looked at please.

  8. David Maycock says:

    Highgrove what about Grasmere Road where i live, we even have a councillor living on it and nothing is done. Road its self is a disgrace and the amount of speeding traffic, School and Firms at Cheadle Royal is shocking. Every morning when i do papers i have to stop and listen on a particular bend as a Silver car comes round and nearly gets me.
    And evening between 3-30pm- 6-00pm is the worst.

  9. John H says:

    No to speed bumps. These are being removed in many areas mainly because they cause acceleration and braking thus increasing pollution. I’m convinced that speed bumps will outlawed in the not to distant future and of course the local authority will have to manage the expense of removal.

    • LB says:

      Hi John H. The consultation results above show that speed bumps are NOT being considered. So it’s not worth arguing about them, either way. The current proposals are for chicanes, better signage and one-way traffic at the dangerous entry/exit with Gatley Road. So… what do you think of those? 🙂

  10. Rizwan says:

    For those opposing speed bumps, what is your proposed solution to help reduce speed please?

    I’m not overly fussed what actual mechanism is used as long as we have a physical incentive to reduce speed (eg chicane)

    I’m not convinced the flashing speed sign will help given the behaviour of some drivers I witness but clearly every little helps in terms of safety.

    I’m completely in favour of making it one way

  11. Roy says:

    Please no speed humps or chicanes when either of these are installed only the Law abiding generally safe drivers are slowed down the IDIOTS of which there are lots (mainly Company car drivers I suspect) totally ignore the traffic calming measures. No what we need is enforcement of Road Traffic Law, drivers could and should be booked for speeding , dangerous driving, driving without due care and attention, using the phone whilst at the wheel of a car, parking on zig zags, I could go on but I am sure you all get my drift.

  12. Milton resident says:

    Turning High Grove into a one way exit onto Gatley Road will have a massive impact on traffic utilising either Chadvil or Milton Crescent. The comment re these Roads not being as appealing for speeding motorists is an absolute nonsense as this is something we regularly experience…. on many occasions they don’t even use the correct side of the road to turn right off HGT into Milton!
    Parking!! Don’t even get me started on that !! Milton is now forever full of shoppers trying to avoid the loss of 30p !! Or the local workng folk avoiding the weekly expense – top end near Gatley Rd is dreadful but it is now creeping right upto HGR.

    I would be happy for junction Milton HGR to be completely blocked off… Make road users use the main roads as opposed to rat runs to save a couple of minutes in traffic… Maybe people would stay on the main roads if you sorted the right turns into the A34 from the Cheadle side… ah no that won’t happen as you live on the Gatley side!!

    I’m sure whatever you do it won’t prevent the ever increasing parking issues the A34 Cheadle junction or (just as a side issues) the amount of burglary/theft incidents in this area!!

    I’ll wait for your paper survey!

  13. LC says:

    The only real solution is making our road one way. The junction onto Gatley road is an absolute disaster and certainly not conducive to two way traffic or poor pedestrians. The main benefit though would be to stop lunatic drivers who have no regard for anyone’s safety using our road as a cut through. As a fairly new resident to HGR I am very surprised there is no traffic calming in place especially as there is a school on the road. It’s an awful accident waiting to happen. Whatever way something MUST be done.

    Perhaps making either milton or chadvil one way too could be considered forcing drivers to use the roads they should be. But as has already been pointed out the junction into the A34 has to be sorted out.

    Milton agreed is awful should be double yellowed down one side it’s a nightmare negotiating through there in a car and even worse walking my daughter and I often have to walk on the road as there is no room on the pavement.

  14. David Johnson says:

    Roy echoes my thoughts that Speeders are Law Breakers and strict application of the Law of the Land must be applied. The application of 20mph limits on many residential roads was in theory a right step but without enforcement is still being ignored. Should I list all those roads starting with St. Anne’s and carry on complaining of the risky free parking available to users & employees of the Lakes Industrial estate that makes my regular necessary travel along there jaw-crunching enhanced by regular speeders?

  15. Geoff S says:

    LC says make Milton or Chadvil one way!!!!! CHADVIL is ONE WAY but who cares? Most days vehicles exit onto Gatley Road and risk life and limb especially turning right towards Cheadle. I suspect it is workers/shoppers who have parked in Milton for the day.

  16. Ashley says:

    As I sit and look out of my window while I write this. The majority of the through traffic coming down High Grove is coming from the broadway end so making the end adjoining Gatley Road no entry wouldn’t make a whole lot of difference. Also, of the cars coming from that end, almost half are coming out of Milton Crescent. That means it would make even less difference and only the the residents that live at that end of the road.

    The only solution I see to stop Speeding cars on High Grove is to stop it from being a through road at all.

    I propose that either the end the road adjoining Broadway or where Milton Crescent joins is blocked off alltogether.

    Yes it would mean that we residents may have to take slightly longer to get to our destinations (depending on which way we’re going, including me. I feel however that it would be a fair trade off to turn High Grove into the quiet little residential street it should be!

    It would not only make the road a much safer place for residents and school children but would also make it a more desirable street for homebuyers which would benefit everyone!

  17. Les says:

    I agree with LB. Speeding on High Grove Road is the problem, Iain. Preventing speeding should be the focus for any action. Anything else risks introducing new hazards. Beware the law of unintended consequences.

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