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Cheadle MP votes against animal welfare clause
by Lib Dem team on 18 November, 2017
Local Lib Dems have expressed disappointment that Cheadle’s Conservative MP, Mary Robinson, voted against keeping the EU animal welfare standard that the UK itself put into EU law 20 years ago.
“Thanks to the UK, millions of animals across the EU have benefited from EU law that treats them as sentient: able to feel pain, hunger, heat and cold. Had it been passed, this clause would have ensured the UK kept those rules after Brexit,” said Cllr Iain Roberts.
The proposal from Caroline Lucas and the Greens was supported by the Lib Dems and Labour. The Conservatives voted it down, meaning that there now no certainty over animal welfare conditions in the UK after Brexit.
The vote, followed comments from Boris Johnson saying that attempts to ban bull-fighting were “political correctness gone mad”. At the General Election the Conservatives suggested that they might legalise fox hunting.
“The British have long been known as a nation of animal lovers,” Iain said. “That status now looks to be under threat.”
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How can anyone possibly vote against tge welfare of animals and other creatures. Just another reason why she should never have been voted for.
Why am I not surprised? Typical of heartless Tories – only think of themselves.
Paula – what do you reckon the heartless Tories will do to their animals?
Bruce – If they are foxes the Tories will chase them until they are exhausted. The will then send their dogs in to tear them apart and then they will smear the fox’s blood over their faces. They will then congratulate themselves.
Meanwhile there will be householders who watched these people galloping through their gardens ripping up flowers and bushes and possibly killing their cats or dogs.
Some of us are a nation of animal lovers. Yet some of us will be having an animal on our plate this sunday dinner time. An animal that has most certainly suffered horrendously, had its young either put into the grinder or shot in the head for being male and not being able to reproduce. An animal that was brought into this world solely for the purpose of satisfying human taste buds, and suffered unimaginably along the way. Only when we stop participating in this horrendous animal holocaust, can we call ourselves a nation of animal lovers.
You make some excellent points
I wont be voting Tory again….the last straw.
Rod – THE alternative is comrade Corbyn with his garden and wealth taxes. They reckon that owners with a garden could be charged over £3000 For a band D in Stockport.
Lib dems also support garden and wealth taxes.
Why is anyone surprised at that?
The left have ALWAYS been thieving ‘bleeps’!
we are not a nation of animal lovers that is a myth, the abuse they suffer from Religious groups alone ? and cruelty that goes on all over the country, RSPCA don’t make me laugh with all the inbreeding example why would you have a dog with a flat face that cannot breathe properly. Am stopping now as i will probably get trolled. Torys they are another lot never lived in the real world !!
Shock horror! As a nation of animal lovers I really don’t see that there will be wholesale cruelty. I’ve just spent the morning at an animal rescue shelter (looking to replace our late dog) and the stories from the east of Europe and the dogs that are being taking in is heart wrenching. I don’t see an issue here. Knee jerk reactions don’t help
There is already wholesale cruelty towards animals. What happens to the animals in the meat industry in UK is heart wrenching to say the least. The only way we can call ourselves animal lovers is if we go vegan
Sorry. That doesn’t do it for me. I have no issue with killing animals for food.
I also have no problem eating meat. I always buy high welfare meat – animals raised to free range or organic standards (often direct from the farm). These animals have a decent life until their “time” comes and wouldnt have enjoyed that life if it was not for omnivores like me – they would not have even been born.
By the by, I wouldnt describe myself as an animal lover except as I might describe myself as a cauliflower lover.
It is a fact that much of the EU wide animal protection legislation has been British led. For example, the banning of the so called “veal crates” and that of the pig farrowing stalls. It is something we should be very proud of as a country and it’s a pity we will probably no longer be able to make that contribution.
Both the meat and dary industry have very cruel practices whether it be free range, organic or factory farmed. Free range is a myth, it just mean they are crammed together in one appalling big cage instead of separate ones. The conditions are horrendous and they are treated terribly. Ive seen it with my own eyes. In organic farming male chicks are ground alive as they are of no use, same as in factory farming. Males calves are shot dead when about a day old. This is so they dont drink their mothers milk. And why is that? because greedy humans want it. And as for pigs, they suffer a horrendous life and death too, if not worse.And if you think they dont have farrowing crates then you couldnt be more wrong. Nothing to be proud of there.
You are , of course, entitled to your opinion and interpretation of reality. But, for those of us who take a different view, we know that free range and organic farming is well regulated and not cruel.
As for male dairy calves being shot at a day old, an increasing number of farmers are turning away from that practice and ethically raising “rose veal”. If we want to end that cruel, but inevitable, aspect of the dairy industry, the solution is to encourage more people to eat rose veal not turn away from meat eating. This link has more about rose veal production and includes a very tasty recipe for veal escalope. Mmmmmm.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/10770703/Why-its-time-to-welcome-back-veal.html
If everyone became a vegan cattle, sheep, pigs, hens, goats would disappear from the earth because no farmer would raise them. What an appalllingly sad thought!
When did you last do any research on the conditions of factory farming? And not too long ago, a programme on channel 4 showed exactly what they do to calves a day old. Yes they were shot in the head. There is no ethical farming in reality. And there is no humane way to kill an animal that doesnt want to die. Also animal agriculture is the biggest cause of greenhouse gasses and global warming and thats a fact. I suggest you do some research on the facts and not on the rubbish that society feeds you. And if we all became vegan obviously the animal numbers would dwindle. But not necessarily become extinct. And if they did (which they wouldnt) would it be a sad thought for you or for the animals? They may be nice to look at in the green pasture but the reality of what they suffer is a different story altogether. They would become an animal in their own right and not just here to be used and abused by man.
Perhaps unsurprisngly, you are choosing to ignore what I actualy wrote – because it doesnt suit your ethical views. What I wrote is that an increasing number of dairy farmers are now ethically raising rose veal so as to avoid the shooting of day old male calves. Those calves now live with their mothers and have a decent life until it is time to slaughter them at several months old. Personally I regard that as a success – for famrers, consumers and cattle.
As for many farm animals leading healthy, normal lives, you only need to drive a few miles form Cheadle & Gatley. You will see cows, sheep and pigs in open fields doing what those animals naturally do. They are not being factory farmed – something that I’m sure many of us would condemn.
Needless to say, I don’t expect yopu to agree with me. But,please, don’t make the assumption that people who do not agree with your fundamentlist views, are not knowledgable about the subject, nor that they don’t care what they put in their mouths.
At something of a tangent – but hopefully a still local and useful one.
Whilst I can think of a number of restaurants in the area which are either entirely vegetarian or, at least, have a significant number of vegetarian dishes on the menu, I can only think of one that’s vegan. That’s Allotment in Stockport town centre. It’s really good. Inventive, tasty food (that generally works). It’s well worth a visit. OK, it’s not food I want to eat every day of the week but then I don’t want to eat pork every day of the week.
Here’s the review I posted on a foody forum I use:
https://www.hungryonion.org/t/stockport-allotment/9522
Do think about giving them a try. We don’t have too many really good restaurants in the borough so the ones that are deserve our support.
Is this website designed to be an echo chamber? – for the touchy feely thieving lefties?? ?
Caring for the welfare of animals is not a left or right issue. Its about humanity and our obligation to care for all creatures, ensure that if they have to be killed it is done humanely and they are not transported for miles across Europe without food or water.
Mary Robinson was wrong to vote against keeping the animal welfare standard that the UK put into EU law
Indeed, it is most certainly not a left / right issue, BUT, the left would always have you believe that they are ‘all heart’!
You have to credit the lefties with this much… they have certainly mastered the art of pulling the wool over sheeps eyes!!
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And I suppose you still believe we’re all in it together??
Nope – never believed it when it was official mantra either! ?
I agree with Janet’s post regarding the horrendous mass slaughter of animals for our indulgence. I admit that I am hypocritical like a lot of others and do eat meat and reckon meat eaters like myself would benefit from a reminder trip to an Abbatoir to witness the horror that these poor beasts experience. I abhor any animal cruelty but would prefer to get Mary Robinsons version of events before condemning her vote that appears to speak for itself.
We should never be surprised that a Conservative party that shows such cruelty to people (benefit cuts, health service cuts, social care cuts, school funding cuts, public service cuts, fire service cuts, police force cuts) votes in legislation resulting in cruelty to animals.
Grenfell Tower is their epitaph.
Dave – you seem to conveniently forget that the Lib dems were in power for five of the last seven years. Do you blame them as well?
Remember that the alternative is comrade Corbyn!
Bruce
I’d be agreeing with Dave. And, yes, I blame the Lib Dems for much of their contribution when they were in coalition government. It was shameful and showed just how right wing the party had become under Clegg. It stuck in my throat to vote for them again – but I remember my Dad’s old creed – anyone but a Tory.
We also conveniently forget that Labour proposed austerity and cuts. Darling, when Labour chancellor, said that Labour would cut “deeper than Thatcher”.
I don’t think we can rewrite history to pretend that didn’t happen. The reality is that, because of the Lib Dems, the cuts made by the Coalition were almost exactly those proposed by Labour in 2010 rather than the higher cuts the Tories wanted.
We can now see what a mess the Tories are making of the country without the Lib Dems to hold them to account.
Iain – I agree with you about the current government being a shambles. People are fed up with austerity and want a change but comrade Corbyn?
With you so low in the polls – mainly because of tuition fees – the alternative to the Tories is frightening.
In Cheadle the choice is between the Lib Dems and Conservatives.
Iain – that may have been true a few years back.But now – I am not o sure. Didnt Labour poll over 12000 last time?
……and then Corbyn came for me, and there was no one but the left……………
Robert
Have to say that’s one of the most outrageous and inappropriate remarks that I have ever read on this blog. Completely out of order to link Corbyn with the Holocaust in the way you’re trying to do. You should be ashamed of yourself and I hope that, when you’ve reflected, you’ll ask the Lib Dems to remove your comment.
……and then Corbyn came for me, but there was only the left……………..
I didn’t intend to post that twice. Apologies to you and anyone who has taken offence, certainly not my intention. Perhaps being a smart Alec can backfire sometimes and I hold my hands up to that. However, constantly bashing the libdems and conservatives leaves the gates open something far more frightening and sinister.